Abdul El-Sayed’s appearance on a University of Michigan webinar alongside convicted offenders and his calls to expand decarceration have resurfaced and stirred controversy, raising questions about public safety, political judgment, and electability as he seeks the Democratic Senate nomination in Michigan.
In a recording reviewed by news outlets, El-Sayed argued that incarceration often masks deeper social failures and suggested policy should aim to reduce jail populations. He has been quoted as saying “we need to be investing” in “any and all efforts to get people out of jails and prisons,” language that opponents say sounds like a blanket push to release offenders.
The event was hosted by the University of Michigan’s Carceral State Project and featured a lineup that included a woman convicted of second-degree murder and a registered sex offender, which critics highlight as tone-deaf at best. Below is the webinar that drew scrutiny, presented where it occurred.
El-Sayed framed some of his argument in public health terms, saying overcrowded prisons were particularly dangerous during the COVID-19 pandemic, but he also insisted decarceration should continue afterward. That stance came as Democrats wrestled publicly with the defund the police movement and many cities saw notable rises in violent crime, a trend that opponents emphasize when evaluating candidates.
Politically, El-Sayed has aligned with independent Sen. Bernie Sanders and embraces policies that make him the most progressive of the major Democratic hopefuls in the Michigan primary. He has signaled plans to criticize Israel and expand welfare programs if elected, positions that have already stirred debate among party leaders concerned about general election viability.
“There are so many ways that society has failed to deal with real problems and has used policing and jails as a stopgap for all of these failures,” El-Sayed told the panel. “We’ve got policies … which basically force people into jail because they’re poor … we’ve got to think about all of them systematically but any and all efforts to get people out of jails and prisons and to keep people out of jails and prisons is policy that we need to be investing in particularly right now … this doesn’t end when the pandemic’s over.”
The webinar was promoted by another host organization using slogans and hashtags that embraced full-throated decarceration, including #FreeThemAll and #AbolishPrison, language that alarms voters worried about public order. For many voters, the optics of a candidate standing beside convicted offenders, while advocating for sweeping reductions in incarceration, cuts to the core of what they expect from public safety-minded leaders.
“When I was asked to participate in the webinar you’re writing about I did not know Dr. El-Sayed and I still don’t, except for what I see on TV,” Martin Vargas, the sex offender, told Fox News Digital. “I don’t follow him nor am associated with his political campaign.” Vargas later said he believed El-Sayed had not been aware of his past when inviting him to the event.
That association fueled hard questions from within El-Sayed’s own party about whether his positions make him a general election liability in a competitive Midwestern state. “Abdul El-Sayed cannot win a general election in Michigan, full stop,” a longtime Democratic strategist previously told Fox News Digital. “This is a candidate who spent years calling police ‘standing armies we deploy against our own people,’ posted more than a dozen times in support of defunding the police, and then deleted his entire social media history the moment he decided to run statewide, hoping Michigan voters wouldn’t notice. They will notice. And so will Mike Rogers.”
El-Sayed has defended broader reforms as necessary fixes for systemic problems, using a metaphor that frames jails and policing as a temporary, corrosive patch. “The last thing we have to remember is that jails and policing in America are like the ‘duct tape’ that people bring out to fix all the other broken systems,” El-Sayed said near the end of the webinar. “If we’re serious about fixing policing and, or rethinking policing, and fixing the mass incarceration system then we’ve got to fix all the broken problems that lead to them, right, where we’re then applying the ‘duct tape’ that is so corrosive to the lives of so many people.”
Critics argue these comments show poor judgment and a lack of concern for victims and neighborhood safety, while supporters say the focus should be on prevention and addressing root causes. El-Sayed’s campaign did not respond to requests for comment about the resurfaced recording and its fallout.

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